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Arrogant commies!!!! by AtheosEmanon Arrogant commies!!!! by AtheosEmanon
[had to repost..for some reason it put it as a print when I never clicked it]

This is yet another thing made randomly.

On another site I was on, I was conversing with a friend about conservatives and then I remembered a few weeks ago debating a conservative who called me a commie for wishing for a properly funded education system and universal health care… and then he said I was “an arrogant communist who is selfish” … while I have said many times that I am no communist, yet not being a communist does not mean I am anti-communist. I consider myself a liberal, progressive, and democratic socialist [not democrat]. Yet this idea that communists are greedy and selfish did make me laugh.

I have traveled around America, and to several countries.

In America the closest things I have found to “communists” are people who live by its root word or the type of lifestyle I have been to are communes which.. believe it or not there are several communal type communities in America, it is as you might expect, everyone having their job in the community, sometimes they rotate jobs, etc and each doing what is best for the group as a whole.

When writing this it made me think there is a lot we can learn from these people… and I hear from Africans as well [Africa is the only continent I have never been on but in a year or so I plan to travel across the entire continent] and there is very little waste that goes on in these societies, this is one of the things I most appreciated. … if we look in America, the amount of things we waste that could be reused, …or at the very least recycled etc…

While I am sure my stalker on here who thinks all liberals are communists anyway will look at this and say I KNEW IT *snickers* As I have said many times, I am for equal opportunity, not equal share.

Any student of history knows that there is nothing new about communism, its origins in fact traces back thousands of years to communal style areas where everyone had a task, generally these people were very simple in lifestyle, … though in a way, you can see similar things to the Amish people of today and past…

If you check here
Influence map: [link]

My influence map, I enjoy the written and oral accounts of the views of Marx, Engels, Lenin and Trotsky. I much prefer Trotsky and am no fan of Stalin, but to each, their own.

I will stop here because… there is no one type of communism. You have some Christian communist who believe that their bible tells them [which technically it does] to live a simple existence and to help others … and to not put too much power into money and material possessions… then you have some who take a more Marxian view of religion being an opiate of the people which stops them from helping others because if they simply believe that the “next life” is better, that serves as a reason for SOME, not all, to take more of an apathetic view while on earth.

…waits for the trolls, or usual YOU ARE EVIL!! Conservatives to comment .. or send me lovely “you should die” private messages” ..

Back to my liberal, progressive, democratic socialist cave...

Pure socialism vs Democratic socialism
[link]

Socialism-Communism Not The Same
[link]

Atheist Leftist Answers your questions: [link]

“Roosevelt American Ideal stamps”
Roosevelt American Ideal I: Constitution Background
[link]

Roosevelt American Ideal II: American Flag background
[link]

Emanon's Rooseveltian Plan
[link]

Other pieces to check out:
American is not number 1: [link]
Pro Quality of life: [link]
Anti-American Me: [link]
Not fiscally conservative, fiscally pragmatic [link]
Leftist Pragmatism vs. Rightist Idealism [link]
My political ideologies: [link]
Liberals and gun ownership: [link]
Why socialism? [link]
Pure socialism vs democratic socialism [link]


Gay Rights:
Gay rights in America I: [link]
Gay rights in America II: [link]
Debate with an “ex gay” Christian convert: [link]
Gay is the New Black. my opinion: [link]

An atheist on theism & atheism: [link]
Declaration of truth: [link]
What it means to be an atheist: [link]
Atheist leftist answers your questions...:
[link]
An atheist debates an atheist on theism: [link]

Abortion pieces:
[main piece] Abortion: [link]
Abortion stamp 1: [link]
Abortion stamp 2: [link]

Songs listened to while typing:
Tracy Chapman, Talking about a revolution: [link]
Yusuf Islam: Peace train: [link]
Train roll on : I do not know the artist: [link]


Check my gallery for other pieces.

As always comrades,
Let knowledge be that truth, which portrays humanity, condemns malevolence; that respects the differences in others while abandoning the hatred and misconceptions of the past.
-Emanon
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EdenianPrince Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2014
Communism is not an arrogant ideology, simply an extremely unrealistic one. 
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
As the artist comments stated, this was based off of what someone called me..an arrogant communism..

I find communism, or its base roots communalism works fine on small scales but as he number of people get larger and larger .. from what I see it tends to work less and less... at least from the large previous communist states that has been in the last century or so.
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Kevin2097 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Cool!
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
:thumbsup:
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Kevin2097 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Hmm
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Vengefulpadre Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
On paper… communism should work, but everyone has their own angle to work, something they want personally. and that's why it doesn't work. socialism I support, and I do acknowledge the many mistakes it has had, but it can work, we just need to keep it working.
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Kevin2097 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
And children want freedom against adult domination!
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I think, with respect to communism [well certain schools of communism] it can work on smaller scales, given its communalism history - - it can work on small scales but as your population grows, and people in larger and larger groups want different things - it tends not to work with its original intentions on mass groups.

I consider myself a democratic socialist, while there are certain schools of socialism that I may actively oppose such as certain parts of Libertarian socialism and such.. but in general I think most people understand that longevity works best with a sort of mixed market system - there are things that I do not think should be run for profit - health care, education, prison etc... then there are things in which private business should take the lead and not the government.

thanks for the fave.
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Vengefulpadre Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
You're welcome. And I do support that sentiment, Socialism is the best, I mean when done correctly. Even in it's worst form (Nazi) Germany was a powerhouse that quickly surpassed many countries who were better off initially. I think we just need to choose the right person for it.
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Edited Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I would disagree somewhat, do remember that while it is true that socialism has its "right" and 'left" wings... , Hitler fashioned himself after Mussolini 's fascism .. and he pretty much only used the word "Socialist" because the largest party of the time were the socialist parties.. and what happens after he came to power?..... he killed the leaders of the socialist parties, imprisoned or killed other top socialist party members and shut down all of the socialist parties...  - - do remember, even Mussolini was kicked out of the Italian socialist party.

So, while SOCIALISM made a good point for Hitler, part of socialism is the people have power... not simply an authoritarian  above all.. Hitler gave the people little freedom in which would not swear loyalty .. while every large country no matter how small will have"bouts of socialism" .. be it just something as simple as government maintaining a few departments Hitler's Germany seemed more German Nationalism and Jingoism than true socialism.. though I concede that there is no such thing as "true" socialism given its many schools and thoughts - some contradictory to the others - - some contradictory onto themselves.

In general, I do not think even the most ardent socialist would want a 'strong leader" that no one can ever question without being killed and marked as a traitor.. what  good is socialism if the people are merely slaves to a system..

I do apologize for the long comment.. It did not seem that long in NOTEPAD when I was typing it
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Vengefulpadre Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
oh it's fine, and the point as well. you're right about the leader thing, I just mean it would require a leader who won't abuse it, but also be someone you can respect, god forbid it be lead by someone like some of the USA's past presidents. It is a shame though that, whenever socialism is brought up, many automatically leap to Hitler's third reich, rather than Orwell or Trotsky.
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Trotsky .. a man who made atheosemanon.deviantart.com/ar… my influence map... killed because he thought Stalin's regime was too powerful and did not give the people much of a voice. for a man, Trotsky, that in his own autobiography "My Life" he speaks that ultimate power should rests in the hands of the people and it is the people that should choose their leader.. I am paraphrasing of course since he spoke quite a bit about how a leader should be chosen.. I also agree on Orwell,

1984 pft, some of our government resembles what he was warning against, while I did vote for Obama in 2008 and 2012 because I agreed with him more than McCain and definitely more than Romney.. he was not my first choice in either election.. and I doubt my favorite Senator Bernie Sanders, also a democratic socialists, will ever run for higher office..

I think most people in general wants a mixed market economy, at least I do. I do not want a full public system with no private interests .. nor do I want a fully private system with no public interests
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Vengefulpadre Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I honestly despite usually supporting democrats, found myself against Obama, Romney I disliked a lot, but Obama takes credit for much of what was already going on (the hunt of rBin Laden, pulling troops out, ETC) I think it's just people are scared of the idea, I mean as I said, Socialism is usually associated with negatives, and no one is willing to take the risk. I forget the senators name but he ran for a few offices  (not the oval one but others) and was a Socialist, upon reaching the office, He gave it up completely, people are piss scared to address it. And as far as 1984 in reality, I see it more and more, and honestly fear for the future, our government is like a house of cards ,someone's going to come around and knock it down, drones, and the surveillance, I do believe some people exaggerate it to an extent, but when someone who has the volition to take over by force has those resources, it's all over.
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
The way the American system is now, sadly, it is more or less supporting the lesser of two evils. I would have given McCain a closer look, he was not so batshit compared to some but once he chose Palin eh.. and Romney.. just no, and once he chose Paul Ryan whose budget according to the CBO would cut taxes on the very wealthy but raise taxes most on lower and middle class...and somehow this would save the system in his trickle down belief. Obama is at best a moderate, at worst and more likely center-right.

I do not think people are scared of the idea of it as much as people are simply ignorant of many things and allow the media to tell them what to think. As stated, there are many schools of socialism, some I agree with an some I oppose - and if people actually looked into them and said specific things given a specific school that they disliked I would trust that much more than blanket statements of socialism is bad.. why.. it just is!!!

You forget his name, do you recall the state?

I do not have a general opposition to drones, I have a general opposition to tracking cell phones rather than flying a surveillance drone over to make sure that the person we are tracking is the one being killed, and trying to minimize as much as humanly possible the casualties - - you have some people who say if there is even a chance a casualty may die then do not do it - - it sounds great in sentiment, but in reality it is a bit unrealistic to believe that we can only ever strike where there is "no chance" of a casualty being hit or harmed.

the FISA courts needs to be reformed, some call for it to be done away with but I would oppose this. What needs to happen is you need someone to argue against the government vs just the court being a rubber stamp for the government.. preferably one approved by congress and working on behalf of congress the "people's representatives" against the federal government to maintain the balance of powers between the executive and legislative branch with the judicial branch of course being the court itself.
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zane1193 Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2014
Atheos,I must congratulate you on yet another piece of "feel good" liberal propaganda,this is Kool-Aid poisoning at it's finest and impressionable high schoolers and stoner college kids are drinking it up!

Of course you haven't told them their standard of living will be at poverty level while the leaders of your utopian dream world will be among the idle rich,but hey,we'll all get "free" healthcare,right?
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Sir, you just posted that same line in your other piece, will today be another day of you going through the gallery and commenting on a bunch of stuff but copy and pasting the same opening? aw, sweet.

Do tell me, sir, what utopian dream I have.. please do..
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zane1193 Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2014
LOL.

It's my new tagline for all your' "wonderful" posts,don't you like it?

Sigh...Still in denial I see.
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist

so you speak of my utopia -  - thus you would have some idea of what it would be like  - -yet I ask you what is it and you cannot say  - - zane, zane.. the years have truly taken a toll I see  - - I mean you used to have some long rant about my utopia… and now.. thus.. tsk, tsk..

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zane1193 Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2014
Sigh...Atheos,you've written about it numerous times on your page,why tell you something you already know?
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
so if I have written about it numerous times and thus you have read it.. then it should be easy for you to say what is my utopia.
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zane1193 Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2014
Part of your "utopia" would involve a sexual free for all of the vilest practices,as can easily be seen from your writings.

It truth,your Utopia would be a modern day blend of Sodom and Gomorrah, a rave at a crack house and a torture chamber for infants.
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
First premise - incorrect but that means you either have not read my pieces or make baseless claims as usual..

Second premise - false..

so basically you cannot say what my utopia is? fun times.
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ryu238 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014
Funny how that never really worked out...
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lucyfurry Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2014
Such a stale argument. Who said true communism ever existed?
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ryu238 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2014
...well I suppose that is one way of looking at it.
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, many different schools and as you get larger.. it tends to collapse in on itself. It tends, from what I have seen not worked well on grand schemes without adjustments
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Arrogant is right.
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh yes, I agree... such arrogance..
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yup
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LeRevolutionnaire Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013
great quote, love it, thanks!
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:thumbsup:
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extremerebirth1 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Doesn't that defy human nature? That's why communism can't work. Humanity is too self centered by nature for communism to ever be effective. That's why it will never work
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Emperor-sama Featured By Owner May 3, 2013
Communism can work, but it's never been given a chance to truely prosper because of fear media in non-communist nations. It's a vision of people getting equal opportunity and eradicating diverse social classes based on financial status.
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extremerebirth1 Featured By Owner May 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
But humans aren't good enough for that to ever work
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Emperor-sama Featured By Owner May 3, 2013
The government is set up to prevent that. And because they may or may not lack resources not everybody has everything (Ex.: Cars in North Korea). On the other hand you have WAY too many greedy individuals in (let's say USA) where the standard of life social standing depends on your money and social reception and in a lower increase in intellectual bettering. In other nations (North Korea) it's better than that, but resource wise they cut purposefully cut out of the loop just because they are communist.
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extremerebirth1 Featured By Owner May 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Giving the government that much power would bring nothing but tyranny. NK is in its position because its communist. You need strong government for communism to work. Do you really trust the government with that much power
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Emperor-sama Featured By Owner May 3, 2013
I just said they're still hated for being communist. The government regulates things like a typical government, which explains the equal wages and no private property to add to individual wealth. People even chose to follow the ideas of communism (without the typical belief of a gun pointed at them) which speaks for itself seeing that the leaders can only do so much. The United States, to me, has too much power since the extreme elite don't have to listen to the common people whereas in a communist system the people are a primary factor for the government to exist.
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I am not an absolutist to work under the confines of never and always, I shall leave that to you. While I am no communist nor would I wish for it, this was made, if you had read the artist comments, because a conservative called communist "selfish" for wishing for a universal health care system and properly funded education system.
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wilji1090 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Y'know, this reminds me of a thing I saw on an althistory forum. It was called Reds. Basically, President McKinley is not assassinated which has the unfortunate effect of marginalizing reformers like Teddy Roosevelt, a far more brutal World War I and surprisingly, the United States undergoes a Communist revolution in 1932 when Hoover and General MacArthur declare the election void. The new country? The Union of American Socialist Republics [UASR].

From what I gathered, the UASR benefitted from having Leon Trotsky fleeing to America rather than Mexico. As a result of that, he is something of a best seller. The thing though that makes me wonder about somethings is that the UASR places a high importance on social activity and the frowning upon individualism. Even more remarkable is that the USSR still ends up in a Cold War with the Americans.

But, even pre-Junta parties like the Conservative Democrats and Republicans are allowed a say in what goes on in the Republic's political processes. Hell, the South is considered highly conservative despite it having the air of California and New York while the traditionally Liberal states are considered to be like Amsterdam.
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
As you know, I am a huge fan of Trotsky, I have not seen this show or whatever althistory is, but it sounds like a very interesting topic in an "what if..." sort of way.

... I am against any impede on individualistic actions, yet also am for doing things for the betterment of society as a whole.

Amsterdam, sounds lovely.
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wilji1090 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Mainly, the lack of individualism is the byproduct of William Z. Foster becoming the Premier of the Union of American Socialist Republics. Yet they're STILL better than the Soviet Union. Also, Henry A. Wallace ended up as a Premier too shockingly. He was the Secretary of Agriculture and then the Secretary of Science and Technology :P
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
... Stalin is what destroyed the Soviet Union, he was too greedy and brutal...
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wilji1090 Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
True, and because of the UASR, they actually oust Stalin quicker.
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Lmao, GOOD!! They should have just listened to Lenin's wishes and let Trotsky lead
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wilji1090 Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually, no, Trotsky's in New York.
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I was not speaking of alt history, I was speaking of the REAL soviets
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sweetaffections Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2012
Wooot communism. :D
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Lmao, thanks for the fave :P
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sweetaffections Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2012
Lol no prob bro!
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CorvusCorax92 Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Arrogance is a rather odd thing to accuse communism of... Hell, I used to be a Stalinist (or 'anti-revisionist' as I would have said then), and I don't think I ever got that thrown at me! What strange ideas right-wingers get into their heads... I bet the guy who called you that couldn't even tell you what communism actually is, or rather, *could* be, given it's different forms. I get called arrogant now (once by a communist, interestingly enough) as a left-libertarian, but I never did as a communist.
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