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Not Anti-Family by AtheosEmanon Not Anti-Family by AtheosEmanon
I saw a religious person post a stamp that said “I ‘m pro-family, not anti-gay”

Which made me think of this photo: [link]

So figured I would do my, the straight guy who supports gay rights, version of it. .. meant to be satire, somewhat.

I know plenty of gays, several of whom have been in relationships longer than I have even been alive and are great parents and have strong families to their kids.

The American psychological association has done a study that has shown that there are no negative differences between a child raised by gay parents when compared to a kid raised by straight parents
[link]


Don’t know what else to put here…

Here are some other posts in my gallery that will tell my views or things I have written regarding homosexuality.
Gay Rights in America: [link]

Gay Rights in America II: [link]


Gay Debate with an ex-gay, born again Christian: [link]


Other pieces that may interest you [the reader]:
An atheist on theism + atheism: [link]

What it means to be an atheist: [link]

Those that influence me: [link]


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Okay am done.


As always comrades,
Let knowledge be that truth, which portrays humanity, condemns malevolence; that respects the differences in others while abandoning the hatred and misconceptions of the past.
-Emanon



…back to the cave I go
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sakpalamey Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I say anti-feminist  is not anti-female. What's your view?
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I would need clarification on what one means by anti-feminist?
There is anti-feminist in a hm Taliban way which believe women should not be educated, believe they, in most cases should not work, should not exhibit any trait of belief she is equal to that of a male..I would say that is rather anti-female.

I would need clarification of what one means by anti-femnist - - if they take the view that woman are inferior, and should not be given the equal opportunities and rights as her male counterparts - -then I would question whether or not they wish for the female to have a lot in life that is not tied to a male...
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sakpalamey Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
By anti-feminist, I mean taking a stand against so-called positive discrimination like anti-stalking law and biased divorce law we have in India, which is clearly populist vote-bank politics.
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I cannot speak to Indian law - but I am unsure what feminism would have to do with "positive discrimination" - - it is similar to Affirmative Action laws in America I would imagine where we try to diversify our businesses and markets after centuries of mistreatment of one particular group - - America is not yet there yet - - but it is getting better.

Might I ask you what is "positive discrimination" with respect to an anti-stalking law?
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sakpalamey Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Positive discrimination, I mean reservation policies. Here, they do it for ensuring political win in elections, not for real welfare of people.
No, it has nothing to do with anti stalking law, nevermind. But I observe that divorce laws are being misused. Is it same there?
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Might I get an example so that I could better understand what you are referring to with respect to the "positive discrimination" and its link to feminism?

I would also need an example of what you mean by "misused"? In what way are they being misused then I can say whether or not it is similar/same here?
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sakpalamey Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Forget about positive discrimination.
Well, the government wooes women voters by declaring reservation on eve of election. But the policies are never implemented once a party comes to power. This happens with all other proposals and so fundamental facilities like education, food, water and electricity doesn't reach common people. People have lost faith in democracy.
Stalking for first time is bailable offence. Second time invites jail term. It is biased and leaves men powerless. There have been instances when women have misused this law.
Divorce law which is currently being passed states that women acquire 50% of their husband's private property along with alimony. Women along with their lawyers are deliberately stalling cases till the law is passed. Do you think it's fair?
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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
How do they woo women voters, and are the alternatives offering better things or worse. because  when it comes to politics the people will often vote for that which they believe will harm less vs condemn more.  If the people do not get active in their political structures, then they will get what they continue to get. The people, if they truly feel so passionate about such should mobilize, organize and try to place candidates up, and elect candidates that would hold to the view of the issues that are important to the people.

Well women misuse of the law does not show any connection to feminism, which is why I am unsure how wanting equity in a social order aka feminism..and a woman lying about something are linked together?

In America the law is very similar, for a first offense a person may get a slap on the risk, a second offense may invite jail time etc.. but in America, men and women have lied about being stalked, so I do not see it as an issue with "feminism".



Your ending premise also makes me question the use of feminism in the context of marriage laws. In America we have these things called prenups that if they agree before hand I keep what I had before, and you keep what youhad before - - sometimes they would also come up with an alimony structure if the person is wealthy such as.. you will get 100K per year of marriage to be paid in a divorce - - I just looked up your law and your law has similar contractual prenups but they are void if the party commits an immoral act such as cheating...

So fair in what context? In America if someone is married without a prenup, then upon their divorce the accounts, property are split 50/50 among the divorcing parties - - generally more wealthy people or even not so wealthy people get prenups - - so it is not about fair or unfair, it is perhaps about India catching up with other countries that utilize prenups as a normal course of marriage which protects or can protect both parties in the event of a divorce.

- - Question, if the woman has more money and she gets a divorce and the husband wants 50% I assume of course one would find that just as "unfair" as they do with a woman wanting or being allowed according to Indian law to half of the estate.

So, the terms in these cases of this being feminism is greatly misused... If we wish to discuss feminism in a society we must pit against the notions of equality vs equity vs justice.

... and relate that to the gender roles, and how the laws are in favor ... we can look at the past 20 years or so where in India violence against women has not been addressed as well as it should be and perhaps the nation should truly address a realistic feminism stance.
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ChaoticDarkAngel Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013   Writer

Agreed completley.

 

I see nothing wrong if two men or two women marry one another. It doesn't affect my life or my family's life. Love is love no matter if people are the same gender or not.

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AtheosEmanon Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I completely agree, while I will never marry... I do not care if two men or two women wish to get married...

While you often hear the right say this will lead to polygamy and bestiality being legalized, which makes me laugh... yeah two humans having sex is the same as human and animal sex [PLEASE FORGET KY LAW!!!!! which when they legalized sodomy aka anal sex they also legalized bestiality ..... was both a gay rights landmark and a showing ignorance ...]  ...

[Though I admit I am in the minority in that I would have no issue if polygamy was legalized]
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