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I was debating with a friend. She said if she can choose what is the greater problem as far as homicides go- between "guns" or "criminals" She said that the gun is the greatest issue and that we need an assault weapons ban!!
If anyone knows me knows that I am 100% against gun bans, and other than for emotional arguments I see no logical reason behind them.
I will say why I am against gun bans, there are according to several different reports, 120-160 million gun owners in America… there are 113,000 people shot every year on average [the CDC statistics says 100K but say they take out the average 13,000 people shot with BB Guns each year..] of the remaining 100K … 18K of those are suicides… so just said that 82K people each year are shot by someone else either by accident or on purpose.
What this says is that 1 person in every 1,200-1,600 people who own guns will use the guns in an irresponsible manner, that means a tenth of 1% of people will use the guns wrong and that 99.9% of people who have guns will not use them wrong, so I see no reason to ban guns because a tenth of one percent will do something wrong with it.
I am also against banning "assault weapons" [which is more or less a political term since "assault weapons" aka fully automatic weapons have been banned since 1934 [and yes, I would not care if they were made legal, oh noes!! Call the guards lmao]
According to the FBI of the 100,000 people who are shot every year, 4% of those use rifles and 25% of those use "assault rifles".. what that means is of the 100K people shot every year, only 4,000 are shot with a rifle of any kind; and 25% Of that or 1,000 are shot with "assault rifle" or semi automatic rifle.
According to gun statistics, there are 4 million "assault rifles" in America and 200,000 sold every year.. so we are going to ban the gun that millions of people own…. Because 1000 people chose to do something wrong with it?... that to me, makes no sense.
I know, no one wants to see people mass shot… yet according to the FBI and other students the gun used most in mass shootings, a mass shooting is any shooting incident where 3 or more people are shot.. the gun used most are pistols.
I find it a bit odd that people want to ban "assault rifles" which are only responsible for 1% [1,000 people] shot every year… yet are okay with the pistol which accounts for 60-70 [60,000-70,000 people shot each year] .. seems a bit hm bothersome that you want to ban the gun responsible for 1% of the shootings but not the gun responsible for 60-70% Of the shootings.
One woman said, SINCE I AM AGAINST GUN BANS, THAT MEANS I AM FOR MASS SHOOTINGS.. yeah, I am also against drunk drivers yet you do not see me saying ban all cars.. that type of argument, I understand is made from an emotional standpoint but it makes no sense.
Another one I love is.. you are against gun bans, so clearly you have never known anyone who has been shot. I have had several friends and family members who have been shot and survived and many who have been killed by gun violence, yet I never said.. oh … my friend/family member was shot .. so we must ban the gun, I always blamed the criminal, not the gun. For the reasons stated, it is hard for me to blame the gun when 99.9% of people who own the same gun do nothing wrong with it..so I am to say let us ban the gun because a tenth of 1% will do something wrong with it.
I often use these two as an example, New York City.. in the late 80s and early 90s NYC had a very high crime rate, so we took the strict gun laws route and saw little decrease in crime, what we did next, and what did work was hiring more cops, increasing foot and mobile patrol in high crime areas and that is when we saw significant decreases in crime.
Then we take the Chicago example.. they went the stricter gun law route.. but for some budgetary issues they had to let go of many of their cops and now have one of the highest if not the highest murder rate of the country.
As I addressed in my Chicago school teacher post before, the issue of course is not just addressing gun violence [of which according to the nation's largest police polling place "Police One" cops say that gun bans will not decrease crime much… ironically the one question that was taken out of the poll was background checks in which in other polls show overwhelming support for law enforcement … as well as an increased police presence in high crime areas.
So, while I am against gun bans, this idea that there is nothing that can be done. In Chicago and elsewhere is not true, hire more officers, place them on foot and mobile patrols in the highest crime areas .. you may hear the term disperse and decrease which speaks to targeting high crime areas in which criminals generally disperse into different areas and as cops target these areas also, making arrests etc .. it decreases crime rates..
So, I posted this journal to ask you, what is the greater issue if you had to choose between the two, the guns or the criminals..
I want to see what you would say so I may not respond directly to comments depending on what is said, and would ask that it remain solely on this topic… or connected topics.. I of course have no issue with you debating amongst yourselves…
Okay that is all..
Goes back to my liberal, progressive, democratic socialist – national conservative cave to
1- Stockpile guns and wait for the zombies
2- Repeal the 22nd amendment and then run for office *whistles*
If anyone knows me knows that I am 100% against gun bans, and other than for emotional arguments I see no logical reason behind them.
I will say why I am against gun bans, there are according to several different reports, 120-160 million gun owners in America… there are 113,000 people shot every year on average [the CDC statistics says 100K but say they take out the average 13,000 people shot with BB Guns each year..] of the remaining 100K … 18K of those are suicides… so just said that 82K people each year are shot by someone else either by accident or on purpose.
What this says is that 1 person in every 1,200-1,600 people who own guns will use the guns in an irresponsible manner, that means a tenth of 1% of people will use the guns wrong and that 99.9% of people who have guns will not use them wrong, so I see no reason to ban guns because a tenth of one percent will do something wrong with it.
I am also against banning "assault weapons" [which is more or less a political term since "assault weapons" aka fully automatic weapons have been banned since 1934 [and yes, I would not care if they were made legal, oh noes!! Call the guards lmao]
According to the FBI of the 100,000 people who are shot every year, 4% of those use rifles and 25% of those use "assault rifles".. what that means is of the 100K people shot every year, only 4,000 are shot with a rifle of any kind; and 25% Of that or 1,000 are shot with "assault rifle" or semi automatic rifle.
According to gun statistics, there are 4 million "assault rifles" in America and 200,000 sold every year.. so we are going to ban the gun that millions of people own…. Because 1000 people chose to do something wrong with it?... that to me, makes no sense.
I know, no one wants to see people mass shot… yet according to the FBI and other students the gun used most in mass shootings, a mass shooting is any shooting incident where 3 or more people are shot.. the gun used most are pistols.
I find it a bit odd that people want to ban "assault rifles" which are only responsible for 1% [1,000 people] shot every year… yet are okay with the pistol which accounts for 60-70 [60,000-70,000 people shot each year] .. seems a bit hm bothersome that you want to ban the gun responsible for 1% of the shootings but not the gun responsible for 60-70% Of the shootings.
One woman said, SINCE I AM AGAINST GUN BANS, THAT MEANS I AM FOR MASS SHOOTINGS.. yeah, I am also against drunk drivers yet you do not see me saying ban all cars.. that type of argument, I understand is made from an emotional standpoint but it makes no sense.
Another one I love is.. you are against gun bans, so clearly you have never known anyone who has been shot. I have had several friends and family members who have been shot and survived and many who have been killed by gun violence, yet I never said.. oh … my friend/family member was shot .. so we must ban the gun, I always blamed the criminal, not the gun. For the reasons stated, it is hard for me to blame the gun when 99.9% of people who own the same gun do nothing wrong with it..so I am to say let us ban the gun because a tenth of 1% will do something wrong with it.
I often use these two as an example, New York City.. in the late 80s and early 90s NYC had a very high crime rate, so we took the strict gun laws route and saw little decrease in crime, what we did next, and what did work was hiring more cops, increasing foot and mobile patrol in high crime areas and that is when we saw significant decreases in crime.
Then we take the Chicago example.. they went the stricter gun law route.. but for some budgetary issues they had to let go of many of their cops and now have one of the highest if not the highest murder rate of the country.
As I addressed in my Chicago school teacher post before, the issue of course is not just addressing gun violence [of which according to the nation's largest police polling place "Police One" cops say that gun bans will not decrease crime much… ironically the one question that was taken out of the poll was background checks in which in other polls show overwhelming support for law enforcement … as well as an increased police presence in high crime areas.
So, while I am against gun bans, this idea that there is nothing that can be done. In Chicago and elsewhere is not true, hire more officers, place them on foot and mobile patrols in the highest crime areas .. you may hear the term disperse and decrease which speaks to targeting high crime areas in which criminals generally disperse into different areas and as cops target these areas also, making arrests etc .. it decreases crime rates..
So, I posted this journal to ask you, what is the greater issue if you had to choose between the two, the guns or the criminals..
I want to see what you would say so I may not respond directly to comments depending on what is said, and would ask that it remain solely on this topic… or connected topics.. I of course have no issue with you debating amongst yourselves…
Okay that is all..
Goes back to my liberal, progressive, democratic socialist – national conservative cave to
1- Stockpile guns and wait for the zombies
2- Repeal the 22nd amendment and then run for office *whistles*
Tamir Rice
I do not post on here as much because I primarily post on twitter and facebook, but given today is the three year anniversary of the death of Tamir Rice, a 12 year old who was shot in less than 2 seconds after the cop pulled up, I figured I would post this and thus on this
Tamir Rice
(June 25, 2002 – November 23, 2014),
I chose not to post the graphic details of his being killed in this post, you can check my previous journal here
for the video surrounding his death and also the video of how cops tackled, handcuffed and put his sister in the back of a police car when she saw her 12 year old brother's dead body on the floor and try t
Political this and that - Russia, Dem lose, DemCr
A year investigating alleged Russia interference and still no evidence?
This is from May 3rd, 2017
Mind you, this is after over a year investigating this and you have no evidence of the RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA stuff?
Sadly the new McCarthyist era is now on the left (and some right too) that if you do not hop on the RUSSIA train then CLEARLY you must work for the Kremlin.
I have had the same view as I always have, if you have evidence of the claims, release em - sorry not just oh noes this person spoke to a Russian and that shows what we say is true which has been the Rachel Maddow thing seemingly since the election.
They tried this RUSSIA
Syria and some other stuff
I mostly stick to my facebook and twitter now, but trying to get back into posting on here,
SyriaI have not posted in a while and was asked what I thought about what is going on in Syria right now.
To be fully honest, I am sure many of my followers have read or heard of the 1956 Bruce-Lovett report that this is seventy years in the making.
Now, from what I see is being reported, Assad attacked his people with chemical weapons.
Assad claims they attacked an enemy cache and the stored chemical weapons that were there is what was released.
The UN has said they would like to do a full investigation into the attacks, will that be done? As in
My view of this 'resistance'
I was asked my view of this "resistance".
My general view is I cannot take serious a movement, whose morals and ethics I feel are inconsistent to be fully honest. I have several followers who have the "I am the resistance" stuff on their pages and hey.. do you.
If you follow my facebook or twitter, then you already know my many issues with Obama.. and as such my origins for questioning this resistance starts there.
I will oppose Trump when he does terrible things, as I expect I will have to since I am an unapologetic leftist .. liberal..progressive.. but I will oppose Trumps on things I disagree with him as I did with Obama. My issue with
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Would it be possible for you to send me a link to the sources you used in your journal? I am currently writing an essay on the topic of gun bans and I would like to use your sources as an argument against them.
If you do then thank you
If you don't or if you're unable to do so then I understand and thank you for taking the time to reply to me